Mel, DMB,

A saying I often use is ...

What we say, What we do, and What we say we do (the "rationalization"
that relates said belief with  and done action) are three different
things. (A paraphrase of Nils Brunsson and Chris Argyris work in
organizational management.)

DMB is right there is probably no action without belief, correlation
yes, but that connection is not direct or causal.

This is also a kind of "hypocrisy" ... saying and doing different
things, BUT it is not necessarily a matter of deliberately
(dishonestly) saying something different to "real" intent to act
(though clearly it oftentimes can be) - just that the "rational"
(rationality itself) is suspect.

Either way the correlation is real but not directly "causal".

Regards
Ian

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 8:14 PM, ml <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> mel said: the connections between action and belief are often very tenuous,
> in fact approaching correlation zero.  We watch it every week and mostly
> make no big thing about it.  Of course the logic fallacy of "false cause" is
> why these two, action and belief, are so often separate.
>
> dmb says:Zero correlation? Really? I think that whenever we act we are
> acting on the basis of beliefs so that the correlation approaches 100%.
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