Hi Krimel,


At 09:48 AM 2/3/2009, you wrote:
Marsha
It is my impression that the mystical experience is without self and
objects, in the land before language.  How does science deal with that?

[Krimel]
First I don't think the illusion of no-self is any more or less valid than
the illusion of self. They are both ways of framing experience. To quote
you, "They are just conventional conceptual patterns."

I didn't ask you what YOU think, although it is fascinating. My question had to do with the experience that is prior to or without the self and objects. HOW does science deal with that type of experience? Does it produce certainty or meaning?


Marsha










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