Hi MP, Marsha:

> Marsha,
> 
> Found this and thought it relevant our discussion of theism being subject
> to 
> scientific inquiry, and my point about relevance of thesitic/scientific
> langauges:
> 
> "My personal belief, from talking to physicists and trying to gauge their
> level of 
> understanding of Buddha's world is that they don't know anything. The
> whole 
> stance of science is hostile to mysticism. The (physicists) may have
> arrived at a 
> rejection of objectivity but that isn't where they start from. No high
> school 
> physics class begins with the statement "All the world is an illusion"
> ...talking 
> mysticism in a scientific community is like talking Judaism in Damascus.
> They 
> may listen to you but it goes completely against the grain of their
> education." 
> 
> (letter from Robert Pirsig to Anthony McWatt, March 29th, 1997) 

But, high school physics classes propagate the idea that all the world is 
energy and its transformations. And how is energy described? It can neither 
be created or destroyed, put together nor taken apart, and on the whole it 
is neither increasing or decreasing, remaining always constant. In other 
words, all phenomena in the universe are ultimately nothing but forms of 
energy so that energy more or less underlies all material things. One 
begins to wonder if the teacher is discussing physics or God.  


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