Hi Craig

On 3 Feb. you spoke: 

DMB had said
> > subjects and objects are secondary, they are concepts 

Craig
> So if I hold an object in my hand, I'm holding a concept in my hand?
> Craig 

Good to see that sanity prevails :-) About subjects and objects 
refers to the first proto-moq that only had one static "level", namely 
the S/O aggregate. The consequence of the "Quality as dynamic/ 
MOQ as static"  meta-metaphysics (the latter static because it is 
verbal) is that DQ is a concept too.  

I would however like to put this false dichotomy in a greater 
context. We remember how young Phaedrus went to India 

    But one day in the classroom the professor of philosophy 
    was blithely expounding on the illusory nature of the world 
    for what seemed the fiftieth time and Phædrus raised his 
    hand and asked coldly if it was believed that the atomic 
    bombs that had dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were 
    illusory. The professor smiled and said yes. That was the 
    end of the exchange. Within the traditions of Indian 
    philosophy that answer may have been correct, but for 
    Phædrus and for anyone else who reads newspapers 
    regularly and is concerned with such things as mass 
    destruction of human beings that answer was hopelessly 
    inadequate. He left the classroom, left India and gave up.  

This shows that Phaedrus didn't feel the Eastern notion of a 
"dynamic" something versus language  as adequate, and that the 
preverbal/verbal wasn't equal to his Dynamic/Static. In ZAMM the 
first deliberations on the Quality Idea was "pre-intellectual" 
followed by "intellectual", but nothing about pre-verbal/verbal. 
What disappoints me is the latter day Pirsig invoking the very 
same eqation 

IMO

Bo   


  


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