Ham to Bodvar and Andre, 'Likewise, if things were valued before Pirsig, the sense of quality was a common human criterion of relative value or worth before ZMM and LILA were published. Whatever inspires admiration or desire on the part of an observer has always been perceived as having value identifed with "quality". John Keats wrote "A thing of beauty is a joy forever" in 1821. Robert Pirsig wrote his first book in 1973. Neither author created beauty or quality. (Just to keep things in perspective.)
Andre: Hi Ham. Just a little comment from me. You talk about a "relative value of worth" and my interpretation of that is that there is nothing really special to see in these values by 'human criterion', the everyday, common people. It takes extraordinary people to grasp the common, everyday things we seen around us and feel within us and DO something with these. Archimedes in his bath...so the water rises when I get in... so what??? Newton with his gravity...okay, so an apple falls from the tree...so what?? Pirsig wondering...what makes the world 'tick'...yeah...values..so what?? Its what these people have done with these insights and what has been made possible from there that has made the difference Ham. IMHO. Regards Andre Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
