mel: Have you ever had a deep shift in your world / mind that left you feeling like your skin had been stripped off and every input was impossible to ignore? Where everything lost its meed to have a meaning and it took you a week to get your conventional sense back. And you realized that most of your models of reality were empty and at best that your habitual understanding was spraypaint thin?
No drugs, no seizures, no inducement damage? (Yes, it is a very impolite, intrusive question.) Feel free to ignore it, but know for yourself the answer. [Krimel] I have never had an experience that was remotely like being filleted alive. But I generally go through three gestalt shifts before my morning coffee. I have witnessed the twin miracles of birth and death. I was a psychonaught in a former life and have seen the walls melt and watch my emotions dance like dervishes. As Joni Mitchell said, "I've seen life from both sides now >From win and lose and still somehow Its life's illusions I recall I really don't know life at all." > Krimel: > By the way the conflict between priests and prophets is well documented in > the Old Testament. <snip>Much of the Old Testament was > pieced together by an editor when wove them together to provide an > illusion of harmony where there was clearly discord. mel: Overall I am not sure I recall much harmony in the bible, if any, maybe it was my translation. --not sure if this helps or if I've left too big a gap. [Krimel] What I was referring to specifically was based on a theory that Ezra, who helped lead the Jews back to Israel after the Babylonian captivity, was the probable editor of the Pentateuch. In it he synthesized both the priestly and prophetic traditions. I would have to look it up, but there is a stunning example of this interweaving in the story of Noah and the arc from Genesis. It appears to be a single narration but within it you can clearly see that two version are pieced together. But you are quite right. It is hard to find much harmony in all the squabbles of the Old Testament. But what does emerge, quite clearly, is how the Jewish people's understanding of the divine evolves from the polytheism of the Exodus; to a single god in a single place of the tabernacle and temple; to the one God who is with his people wherever they go of the Baylonian captivity, to the still small voice of conscience within each of us; to the personal "Abba" or "Daddy" who cares for each of his children. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
