OK Michael,

Continuing the engineering analogies.
Submarine and (heavier or lighter than air) aircaft both depend on
foundations. Banks and shores and beds of the body of water,
gravitation of a planet for the atmosphere. So forget trains and boats
and planes, and forget hi-rise glass buildings and not even
space-elevators free us from this ...

Spacecraft ... ? ... well, once we're are in deep space independent of
not only planetary but galactic gravitation ... you architects may be
on your own, for a while .... but we will simply arrive at the cosmic
question of what the universe(s) is / are, and we find another glazed
boundary through which we'd love to engineer a door, or even get a
sneak preview of what lies beyond ... but ...

Oops we're back where we started. The Restaurant at the End of the
Universe, bleeding-edge glazing, great light show, great sound-track,
but all menu and no food. The fly-bottle.

Turtles all the way down.

Ian

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Michael Poloukhine <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 5 Feb 2009 at 0:03, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Ian
>> MP, nice to be accused of being wholly logical for a change, I used
>> to  dream of being wholly logical ;-)
>>
>> Some great analogies of that which we discuss in Lamb Lies Down
>> too.  The footer of my blog has a permanent reminder that Rael is not
>> real.
> MP: Glad you picked up on that, I was hoping I was obvious enough! I
> particularly related to you "how I got here" story.
>
> "It" although rather juvenile and simplistic, does open up a whole lot of
> questions in the end though that relate to all this discussion, doesn't it?
>
>> Ian
>> Eventually your door guys will need an engineer (or a neat trick,
>> ingenuity) unless they find a "foundation" to stand on outside one
>> of those doors.
> MP: Yes, but there's also the thought to consider that we are assuming we are
> in a house. What if its a submarine? An airplane? Or a spaceship? Opening a
> window could be an decision with unfortunate consequences...
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