"supreme being" to mean the ecstacy of existing in the now. yes. the expereince of being is Quality, for me. For it is dynamic and mysterious.
________________________________ From: MarshaV <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 6, 2009 10:58:15 AM Subject: Re: [MD] Theism/epistemology HI Ron, It is my understanding that Quality is experience. Do you understand Quality, or Value, to be the same as a supreme being? Is that what you are saying? Were Heraclitus, Parmenides, Plato or Aristotle's philosophy theistic? Marsha At 10:44 AM 2/6/2009, you wrote: >The same questions may be asked of Quality. > >I think this is where the conversation is pointed towards. > >what ever we call this idea. god, Quality, larry, we still mean >the predisposition towards certain types of experiences. >Those patterns we call betterness. >Humans, as all living patterns tend toward those patterns which >promote existence. Biologically we feel a type of pleasure associated >with them. Life is a turn on. The mystical expereince is the ecstacy >of being. I think, if one slows things down and focus on the expereince >of now we feel it. Existence is mysterious and wonder-full. >That butterfly in your chest feeling of electricity. I get that expereince >when I travel out western U.S. through the wilderness and canyons. >The air is crisp and electric,spaces wide and open. I get this feeling >watching my children and being proud and finding them beautiful >transcient like a flower or a cloud formation in the setting sun. >I can only watch as the beauty pours passingly. My expereince, the >only stability in a world of flux. Fichte's self posited "I" >the 'I' in "I" think, therefore "I" am.(or is to be more specific) > >We just are, why can't people just bathe in it, and accept it? > >I am that I am. > >Now Heraclitus thought it wise to agree about this expereince >as common and not particular. But then Parmenides taught that >this expereince is illusionary and that reality was absolute, perfect >and one. Wich Plato, then Aristotle built apon. Souls and objects >possesing eternal and absolute essence, pluralality of the one. >Aristotle thought it wise to agee apon this and designed arguement >from the particular to the universal understanding.. But this turned out >to be a particular view of a common expereince, un wittingly going >against the original wisdom of Heraclitus. > >"Mans role in the universe " is a condtioned need toward fear and uncertainty. >Lifes meaning is existential, we exist to exist. the art of existence is >the dance of life. >learning the moves is important if one is to dance along, those feelings >of harmony ecstacy are letting us know we have it right, flow and ease >are hapiness and betterness expressing the creative pattern of existence. >Decay is the return of the natural state of existence, nothingness. >There is no why, there is no how merely" is" when it comes to this matter. >Any answer is allways limited, being limited it will not be accepted as >any answer. > >Consequently the most trying of times are a natural expression. >" thought I may meet adversity, must I lament?who is to keep me >from meeting it cheerfully? none." -Epictetus >-Ron > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ >From: MarshaV <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Friday, February 6, 2009 9:14:12 AM >Subject: Re: [MD] Theism/epistemology > > > > > >Greetings, > >Is G*d's function in any way to convey information? > > >Marsha > > > >_____________ > >QUESTION EVERYTHING!!! > > >Moq_Discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > >Moq_Discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ _____________ QUESTION EVERYTHING!!! Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk..org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
