> Ron > Moq is nihilistic.It does not subscribe to any form of absolute univerals > other than the empirical fact of mystical experience. MP: Quality is not a form of absolute universal?
> Ron > Therefore Quality > is not God but the creator of the concept of God. MP: So Quality *does* do something after all? I thought it was humanity that created the myth of God through DQ experience? I see turtles on the horizon, Ron ;-) ... > Ron > If you will remember, you asked for a definition to agree on. I > simply put the most > encompassing and general ones out there, I did'nt write 'em. MP: No, you only put *one* out there, and I'm saying quite to the contrary to what you claim, you picked the *only* one that is the least encompassing of the bunch by virtue of the fact that it defines God while defining theism. The others I refer to, do not do this. They let the definition of God deal with God, and stick to defining theism on its own. I think it not unreasonable to posit the notion that the experience of believing there is a g*d can be disassociated for the purpose of argument from the notion of what that g*d is. If you all are uncomfortable calling this "theism" then lets call it "th*ism", or something else not otherwise laden with additional cultural baggage. But "theism" seems like a reasonable enough way to go given most commonly accepted definitions already do this, given that "atheism" already does it while attacking theism and that we can refer to "cultural manifestations of theism" to refer more specifically to what you guys narrowly insist is the meaning of "theism" while allowing for a broader notion of theism to exist at the same time. My purpose is I think noble; it is to seek a way to integrate and evolve cultural understanding of God to a more MoQ harmonious level. I don't seek to re- define MoQ to accept theism (in any definition) I seek to redefine theism to accept MoQ. I think the difference is not semantic. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
