Ron you said:

 

(1a) The stoics argued that emotions emerge from reason and are
controllable, (1b) that sensual pain and reflexive stimuli are filtered
through reason generating emotion. (2) We must ask our selves, does anger
arise from pain? or (3) does anger arise from the reflection of reflexive
pain. Reflection being a universal earmark of abstract thought or intellect
in human experience.

Questions worth looking into.

 

I'd like to look into those questions with you:

 

 1a)  IMO the Stoics were wrong, emotions are controllable by reason but do
not emerge from reason. Reason is motivated by emotions, reason is a
response to emotions. Emotions alert us to what we do or do not want and
reason is the best way to get or avoid those things. By the way you can
control your emotions by identifying them. "I'm feeling sad because my dog
died." will lift your spirits somewhat.

 

1b) No. All wrong.

 

2) and 3) Both. Anger can be immediate. Pain and surprise together equals
anger. Or it can build slowly on reflection as you figure our what happened
and why.

 

-david swift

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