David, How would you define an emotion? -Ron
________________________________ From: David Swift <[email protected]> To: MoQ <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2009 4:43:40 PM Subject: [MD] The Quality/MOQ dichotomy Ron you said: (1a) The stoics argued that emotions emerge from reason and are controllable, (1b) that sensual pain and reflexive stimuli are filtered through reason generating emotion. (2) We must ask our selves, does anger arise from pain? or (3) does anger arise from the reflection of reflexive pain. Reflection being a universal earmark of abstract thought or intellect in human experience. Questions worth looking into. I'd like to look into those questions with you: 1a) IMO the Stoics were wrong, emotions are controllable by reason but do not emerge from reason. Reason is motivated by emotions, reason is a response to emotions. Emotions alert us to what we do or do not want and reason is the best way to get or avoid those things. By the way you can control your emotions by identifying them. "I'm feeling sad because my dog died." will lift your spirits somewhat. 1b) No. All wrong. 2) and 3) Both. Anger can be immediate. Pain and surprise together equals anger. Or it can build slowly on reflection as you figure our what happened and why. -david swift Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
