> >Marsha > >Science is not an independent entity. Who does science for its own > >sake these days? Are you a gentlemen scientist? I don't think > >so. The underpinnings of science are corporate, economic, and > >political, all driven by the profit margin. Of course you might add > >hubris to the list of supports. > > > >[Krimel] > >Science has suffered tragically for the past eight years under an > >administration whose central theme seems to have been, "we were told there > >would be no math..." Pure research has typically been funded by the federal > >government at the university level. That it has not been adequately funded, > >is a serious problem that the new administration seems committed to > >correcting. (It is soooooo refreshing to have smart people in charge for a > >change.) But again the problems are political not scientific. Of course > >science is not independent but the problems that you bitch about are not > >scientific, they are, as I keep trying to tell you, political, economic and > >philosophical. Try to keep up, will you? > >Marsha >Science is corporate, economic, and political. > >[Krimel] >So far in your three post sputter all you have done is restate my case for >me. >Thanks!
[Marsha] Here's what you posted: Krimel: It is not a failure of scientists that politicians, economists and capitalists use and exploit the fruits a science. Marsha: My point is that science cannot be separated from corporate, economic, and political processes, and neither can scientists. Scientists are not separate independent entities who are distinct from the failure. [Krimel] Are you saying that it's a whole system and it's all messed up? Because it sounds like what you are saying is; it's a whole system and science is messing it up. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
