Michael, I mean to say that faith and reason are the same. Faith is belief, I ask, on what does one base faith on?
-Ron ________________________________ From: Michael Poloukhine <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 11:51:28 PM Subject: Re: [MD] Faith/Skepticism > Ron: > I mean, please explain and support your prior statement: > "Religion doesn't justify itself with reason, Reason does that to > religion as reflex." I was responding to your statement that: "Religion rests soley on reason in terms of justification." If anything, you need to explain *that* statement. Religion rests on *faith* in terms of justification, not on reason. Faith conditionally precedes reason. End of story. At least, it would be the end, but for Reason's own presumption of legitimate supremacy in all things cognitive and its self serving demand for justification of all things under that presumptive umbrella as well as, in its boundless arrogance, those outside it. Hence "Reason's reflex." Reason doesn't know how to approach anything but through reason. Religion is in the realm of faith and in that sense outside the bounds of reason when it comes to a justification on reason's terms. Reason was born in contradiction and opposition to faith and religion, and in short; one can *never* as such justify Faith on Reason's terms BY DESIGN. Its like proving a woman is not a witch by drowning her and calling it just because *you've* decided witches float. MP ---- "Don't believe everything you think." Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
