Talking of rules ... I like this. http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/barry_schwartz_on_our_loss_of_wisdom.html
Ian On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:39 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hmmm. You are moving towards the full moon and its game. That's all she > wrote... > > > > > At 05:17 AM 3/7/2009, you wrote: >> >> Probably more aware of setting suns and the thinnest crescent new >> moons under the right conditions with reflected earthlight on the disk >> post-sunset, or full moon risings - I can become totally absorbed in >> experiencing these. I guess it may be the terrestrial horizon I'm >> really most aware of. >> >> ... but where are we headed in this thread apart from the game of >> curiosity ? >> Ian >> >> On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 10:48 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Ian, >> > >> > I feel the full moon... Are you aware of the full moon? >> > >> > >> > Marsha >> > >> > >> > At 04:39 AM 3/7/2009, you wrote: >> >> >> >> I don't "ignore" anything Marsha ... >> >> >> >> I try to use the "awareness" you speak of, to make choices about what >> >> is good. And it tells me that definitions are double-edged, that on >> >> balance, in many contexts, definitions are not good. That seems like a >> >> pretty good "rule" to me - one not to be ignored ;-) >> >> >> >> Ian >> >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 10:31 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > At 04:11 AM 3/7/2009, you wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Sounds good to me Marsha ... it is the lack of awareness that causes >> >> >> the burring I referred to. >> >> >> >> >> >> PS I don't do definitions, as you know ... as usual, you got the >> >> >> "essence" of what I meant ;-) >> >> >> Ian >> >> > >> >> > No Ian, I didn't know you didn't do definitions. Do you ignore all >> >> > rules? >> >> > -Marsha >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 10:07 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Greetings Ian, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Isn't the difference between game-living and game-playing >> >> >> > awareness? >> >> >> > And >> >> >> > what is the definition of 'psychological essence'? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Marsha >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > At 03:20 AM 3/7/2009, you wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Mark, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is the psychological essence of "game" - guessing the game >> >> >> >> of >> >> >> >> "others" whilst being concerned about how "they" interpret what >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> reveal about "your" game. The game of life. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Of course playing (recreational) games is different - rehearsals >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> scene settings for the real living thing. The distinction between >> >> >> >> game-playing and game-living can be quite blurred, but the root >> >> >> >> of >> >> >> >> recreation is no coincidence - re/create. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Ian >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:21 PM, markhsmit <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Hi Marsha, >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > I like the ones by RD Laing in Knots: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > They are playing a game. They are playing at not >> >> >> >> > playing a game. If I show them I see they are, I >> >> >> >> > shall break the rules and they will punish me. >> >> >> >> > I must play their game, of not seeing I see the game. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Cheers, >> >> >> >> > Willblake2 >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > On Mar 2, 2009, at 6:38:36 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Here are some interesting quotes. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > ------------- >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "You have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to >> >> >> >> > play >> >> >> >> > better than anyone else." >> >> >> >> > (Albert Einstein) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "The true object of all human life is play." >> >> >> >> > (G. K. Chesterton) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "If I get to pick what I want to do, then it's play...if >> >> >> >> > someone >> >> >> >> > else >> >> >> >> > tells me that I have to do it, then it's work." >> >> >> >> > (Patricia Nourot) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "Be daring, be different, be impractical, be anything that will >> >> >> >> > assert integrity of purpose and imaginative vision against the >> >> >> >> > play-it-safers, the creatures of the commonplace, the slaves of >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> > ordinary." >> >> >> >> > (Cecil Beaton) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "What we play is life." >> >> >> >> > (Louis Armstrong) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "Life must be lived as play." >> >> >> >> > (Plato) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because >> >> >> >> > we >> >> >> >> > stop playing." >> >> >> >> > (George Bernard Shaw) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "Man is most nearly himself when he achieves the seriousness of >> >> >> >> > a >> >> >> >> > child at play." >> >> >> >> > (Heraclitus) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than >> >> >> >> > in a >> >> >> >> > year of conversation." >> >> >> >> > (Plato) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "Blues is easy to play, but hard to feel." >> >> >> >> > (Jimi Hendrix ) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > .. >> >> >> >> > _____________ >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the >> >> >> >> > stars.......... >> >> >> >> > .. >> >> >> >> > .. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list >> >> >> >> > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> >> >> >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> >> >> >> > Archives: >> >> >> >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> >> >> >> > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list >> >> >> >> > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> >> >> >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> >> >> >> > Archives: >> >> >> >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> >> >> >> > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> >> >> >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> >> >> >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> >> >> >> Archives: >> >> >> >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> >> >> >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> >> >> > >> >> >> > . >> >> >> > _____________ >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Shoot for the moon. 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