> [Platt] > Agree. It CAN occur at any time. It doesn't occur all the time. "Static > quality > is what you normally expect." (Lila, 9) > > [Arlo] > It CAN occur any time because the "spur of the moment", the "ongoing > Dynamic > edge of experience" (note, "of experience", not "of some experience", not > "of > the occasional experience") always contains uncertainty. And that > uncertainty, > the undefined. That our response to experience (DQ) is often habituated, > make > use of analogues, "patterned" is simply evidence of preferred ways of > responding. We call these preferred patterns "SQ", but they derive always > from > the zero-moment, "DQ", which "is a referring term for immediate > experience".
Like I said, "static response." I think maybe you're beginning to get it. > The entire point of ZMM was ways to overcome our analogues and get to > the > zero-moment, the "cutting edge of reality", so that we may, so that we > increase > the probability that we, see something new, that we open ourselves to > the > infinite possibility of this front-edge of ALL experience. Being open-minded is good. Too bad you're not, as MP has learned. . > Now can we please stop maiming angels with ridiculous statements like "DQ > is > not everyday experience, its rare"? Every moment of every day of every > week you > are at the DQ moment. Most of the time you respond using established > analogues, > to be sure. And those preferred responses are what we call SQ. Ditto a "static response." > And dear lord, DQ is NOT some external "force" that we merely "respond > to". DQ > is "the cutting edge of reality", "immediate experience", "the spur of > the > moment", "infinite possibility", the uncertain-but-probable, the > undefined > chance that immediate experience bestows. Glad you acknowledge the lord. But instead of your fervid imagination that described DQ as "undefined chance," let Pirsig tell us what DQ is: "(DQ) was the moral force that had motivated the brujo in Zuni." Lila, 9) Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
