At 02:51 PM 3/21/2009, you wrote:
[Marsha]
My, my Krimel, it is you I see as Don Quixote, not the poor brujo,
with your worship of scientific windmills.  I would never consider a
poor soul who needs to peep into windows a shaman, yes an oddball,
yes a misfit, but I had never considered the brujo the "most static
of the tribe" either.

[Krimel]
Just a point of clarification: if I am a madman tilting, then the windmills
would be wooly headed idealism and delusional mysticism. But I like the idea
of having Hawking as a Sancho Panza. Now that is truly delusional.


Krimel,

And what 'idealism' and 'delusional mysticism' might that be? Even your precious perceptions are mere conceptual constructs. The eye, light, optic nerve and brain are all conventional, conceptual constructs. Is there even one thing that is not dependent on being conceptually constructed and established by conventional agreement?



I am not sure what Ron has in mind but I got mainly a sense of general
frustration at the miscasting in Pirsig's account and in how that miscasting
has been misused.

I guess Ron will speak when he's ready.


Marsha





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