At 10:56 AM 3/22/2009, you wrote:
>[Krimel]
>To answer I must use some kind of weird mojo code because concepts is all I
>can offer.
>
>But sensation is independent of conceptual construction.
Marsha
'Sensation' is conceptually constructed and established by
conventional agreement. What is indivisible, undefinable and unknowable?
[Krimel]
Well actually, no. You seem to be entirely missing the point. You are
talking about "sensation" as a concept. I have tried repeatedly to explain
that any conversation will be conducting using concepts. At least in the
strict sense of empiricism all concepts arise from sensation. They are
derived from it and depend upon it. Concepts are conventional agreements
about sensory experience. The term "sensation" is a conventional term that
refers to this process but individual experience is not dependent upon
concepts rather the reverse it the case.
Krimel,
There is experience and then there is what you have to say about the
experience which is built on analogues. You want to call experience
by the analogue 'sensation'? Not quality?
At 11:29 AM 3/18/2009, in the ' Chance v. Dynamic Quality' thread
you, Krimel, wrote:
Almost all of the sensory pathways lead directly to the thalamus in the
midbrain. From there they are routed to other areas of the brain for
processing. The amygdala is one of the first stops and it basically sums the
data present and pronounces it good or bad in emotional terms. All of this
is prior to conception or intellectual evaluation.
Isn't this describing sensation as some kind of biochemical and
neurological event? Do you think this "system" causes sensation? Is
it experience? Is it Quality? Are you a scientific realist, someone
with the view that the world described by science is the real world?
Marsha
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