> [Krimel]
> My God man don't they teach civics in Sunday School? 

MP: I'm happy to trounce you in a civics debate, but not if you are going to
use 
ad hominem attack to cover over your failings.

[Krimel]
It is hardly an ad hominim attack to point out that you don't seem to know
shit from shineola about checks and balances or the role and history of the
court.

But as for the civics debate, you are way behind on points, right now. But
bring it, biatch.

[MP:]
Opinions of the merits and validity of Roe v. Wade vary. You are obviously
in 
the "living document" constitutional crowd. As such, there's no point going 
further, as we will simply never agree on that simple issue.

[Krimel]
Obviously the application of the constitution is a dynamic process. Even in
the matter of who it's right's apply to, it has required at least three
amendments to define "all men". In the modern age medical advances with DNA
testing challenge the concept of self incrimination. Electronic transmission
of data challenges 18th century notions of copy right and property right.
The status of corporations as "persons" with rights to free speech and their
influence on American life and politics was never envisioned by the framers.

Constitutional fundamentalism like religious fundamentalism is shallow
minded insidious crap; so yeah we probably don't have much to talk about.


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