[Ham] As always, Arlo, you demand physiological or evolutionary answers to metaphysical questions.
[Arlo] I'm not "demanding" anything, Ham. I would think it normal to ask someone who poses a certain thing to answer a basic "if that then how" question. It's kind of ridiculous your "metaphysics" seem to be based on a "don't ask, don't tell" policy. [Ham] How and where experienced events are stored in memory is a question that should be addressed to a neurophysicist. [Arlo] That's not what I asked. YOU said "conscious awareness" is not part of the organic mesh in our heads. I asked, so how does it come to be embedded in there? How is it that "conscious awareness", which you claim in not biological, is up there in the gray matter of our heads. How does it get there? [Ham] The conscious self is identified with a particular human organism (i.e., the "being" that is aware), but it is not the organism or any part of it. "Organic matter" is obviously more "real" to you than the consciousness that objectivizes it or the primary source that underlies it. [Arlo] A lot of words, nothing close to an answer. Again, if the "conscious self" is not part of the human organism, where is it? How does it come to be "identified with a particular human organism"? Is it floating around space and latching onto nearby neural energy? Is it "placed" there by God? [Ham] I'm not interested in chronicling the process; it has been well documented by geneticists, psychologists, sociologists and anthropologists. As a philosopher, my focus is on relating the world of appearances to the absolute source from which all difference is derived. [Arlo] As a... "philosopher"... I would think you would want to be capable of answering basic questions that arise from your claims. Again, if as a "philosopher" you claim that "conscious awareness" is not part of the human organism, but is "identified with a particular organism", you should be at the least able to answer where it comes from and how this happens. What's funny (funny-sad, not funny-haha) again is that you already DO answer the question by denying what answers others have given. You've said its NOT biology from whence conscious awareness derives, and you've said its not social activity either. So its NOT these two things, you KNOW that, but you can't answer in any way what you think it IS? So here is Ham's "conscious awareness" that is not part of the human organism, although it is identified with a particular organism... If it's not biology, and its not sociology, then from where does this "awareness" derive, and how does it come to be "identified" with a particular organism? How, Ham? Don't ask, don't tell? Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
