[Ham] Your hypocrisy is as indefatigable as your paranoid defense of leftist politics. (There, I've said it!)
[Arlo] Oh, then it must be true. Actually, it's not. Since I've condemned left wing PC (Miss California, Michael Savage) repeatedly. Nice try, though. [Ham] Even a simpleton knows that insulting a U.S. president, particularly when the nation is under attack, is bound to enrage the citizenry. [Arlo] If simpletons know this, then perhaps they should tune into talk radio since Obama was elected. We are "under attack", aren't we? So you wouldn't dream on insulting the President, would you?? [Ham's funny hyprocracy about PC] They took advantage of their celebrity and a public platform to denounce President Bush, and they got what they deserved when it backfired on the audience. [Arlo] Nice, so if Miss California "got what she deserved when it backfired on the audience", you're cool with that? [Ham] I'm not familiar with Sean Hannity's Freedom Rally singers, but if they insult the President they can expect to be harranged. [Arlo] Yikes. What wonderful ignorance! Should they be "harranged" in the same way those who insulted Bush were? [Ham] I don't need a court verdict to express my views. Did the Dixie Chicks or Bill Maher have a court verdict to voice their contempt for George Bush? [Arlo] You charge them with treason. That requires a court verdict. Otherwise all you are doing is defining "treason" as anything that upset YOUR "patriotic" sensibililty. Can you point to any archived records of the Chicks or Maher calling Bush a "treasonous"? [Ham] Patriotism is a commonly understood word. There's no Doublethink or Newspeak implied here. [Arlo] Yikes! So agree with YOUR definition of "patriotism" or "get the fuck out", eh? [Ham] What's YOUR definition of patriotism, Arlo? [Arlo] A desire to see your country persevere and evolve, to learn from its mistakes while supporting what it does right, to apply intellectual standards as higher than social ones. [Ham] Do you think Jane Fonda's remarks... was not the message of a traitor? [Arlo] No. Unless you define "traitor" as someone who does not blindly support the actions of his/her "state", then of course you can make a "traitor" out of anyone. [Ham] What is "manipulative" about the designation "War on Terror"? [Arlo] "Terror" is relative to the experience of the individual. [Ham] Frankly, I'm not aware of Newspeak or Doublethink examples created by right-wing politicians. [Arlo] Wow. That surprises me. Not. [Ham] The fact that a few informants (I believe the number is 3) were uncomfortably stressed in order to make the questioning more productive is no reason to name the interrogation process "Torture". [Arlo] So if, follow me here, captured US soldiers were waterboarded, you'd tell them they were not tortured, only "interrogated"? [Ham] I suggest you get off your liberal warhorse long enough to consider political Newspeak and Doublethink as methods of thought control that have manipulated the values and ideals of the American public. After all, that's the point I've been trying to get across. [Arlo] I suggest you get off your right-wing warhorse long enough to consider political Newspeak and Doublethink as methods of thought control that have manipulated the values and ideals of the American public. After all, that's the point I've been trying to get across. But its not the right-wing to you, is it? Just them damnable evil leftist libs. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
