[Ham] Indeed, it's been my point all along that the subjective 'I' is the locus of
awareness without which there is no otherness. Existence is a dichotomy in which awareness (value-sensibility) and beingness (the other) are divided but mutually dependent. [Krimel] This is another of the linchpins of your "philosophy." Like several of the others it has been repeated explained to you why it is not so. The reason you fail to address the matter head on is pretty obvious. If you really considered the matter you would have to abandon your "philosophy." Heaven forbid! But here we go yet again. This dichotomy you propose is misguided. As a human I have being and awareness. But awareness depends on and is entirely derived from my being. If I don't exist I cannot be aware. Awareness depends entirely on being but is irrelevant to it. Lots of things have being without awareness. In fact when I sleep I have being without awareness. A corpse has being without awareness. The ONLY dependence between being and awareness is entirely one way. Awareness depends on being but the relationship is NOT mutual. [Ham] I view this dichotomy as the "negational mode" of an absolute source (Essence) whereby Value is made aware by an independent, agent. [Krimel] Essence is an abstraction or distillation of experience. It is what is necessary for existence after all the extraneous variables are removed. When all that "extra" is removed essence is what remains. The consensus in the west seems to be that what is necessary for existence is time. Kant would add space and causality. But space is derived from time and causality is just a probabilistic understanding of temporal relations. [Ham] The individual self (subject) is value-sensibility, and it becomes aware experientially by objectivizing Value as an evolving universe of finite things and events. [Krimel] It is not possible for an individual self to "objectivize." Objectivity require two or more independent observers. It is what is common between independent observations. Objectivity is what "we" agree is common in our disparate experiences. [Ham] As the antithesis of Absolute Essence, subject/object reality is characterized by difference so that relational values such as Freedom, Morality, Beauty, Justice, and Compassion can be realized.autonomously. [Krimel] Unlike being and awareness, difference and similarity are mutually dependant. It is just as important for beings like us to recognize similarity are to see difference. Your emphasis on one without recognition of the other is yet another in the long list or reasons your approach is fatally flawed. [Ham] Yes, but we must understand that space and time, like sensibility and otherness, are differentiated only in actualized existence. There is no "before", "after", or "other" in the uncreated Essence from which S/O existence is derived. [Krimel] Uncreated Essence is a myth you have constructed to cover over many of the gaping holes in your philosophy. It is a fiction that apparently serves to keep you happily blind to the huge holes in your conceptual continuity. Mostly you seem to be constructing a way of drawing a smiley face on emptiness and nihilism. But that's just the way this "negate" sees it. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
