Greetings John,

Yes, to see the levels in relation to Quality. Bo would say we need a new level to represent the MOQ point-of-view, but I am not sure that is necessary if we understand the levels in relation to Quality/DQ, then it's all there for the experiencing.

Pablo Neruda was a wonderful poet, a wise man, a shaman.


Marsha






At 06:55 PM 5/19/2009, you wrote:
Greetings Marsha,
As  was dropping off to sleep last night, yours was the post that most
intrigued because of another ephiphany I'd had yesterday.  (Yesterday was
very epiphianious for me)


[Marsha]

Question:  Why does it seem that most discussions involving the levels end
in conflict?   Do the levels represent THE TRUTH?

[Me]

And I didn't get much motivation to share this other epiphany I had, because
Platt stole my thunder...

[Platt]

I think it is good to keep in mind that no matter how strongly we believe
that our way of viewing the world and obtaining knowledge is correct,
our belief ultimately rests on a foundation of faith that has no bottom.
That goes for the MOQ, too, although "Some things are better than
others" is a fairly solid foundation compared to most.

[Me again]

My epiphany is that we are not coming together to form the perfect
metaphysics, we are coming together to form the BEST metaphysics.
 Perfection doesn't exist, but the best is always real.  That's what a
quality metaphysics is.

The other idea I've been turning over in my brain is that I see how
important it is to see the different levels in their relation to Quality
rather than just their relations to each other.  That is, upon whatever
level you are looking at, don't ask yourself how your intellectual patterns
can best conquer social patterns; don't ask how a certain social systems
successfully dominates biological patterns.  Ask yourself rather, of your
social and intellectual systems, how GOOD they are, in the faith (as Platt
describes it) that Quality is real.  And being real, it is equally real on
every level and thus immune to hierarchical dominance games.

I have no idea if that is a true insight.  But I do have faith that it is a
good one.  Thanks for triggering so many good thoughts.

Oh yeah, thanks for the Pablo Neruda posts too.  I really enjoyed them and
forwarded them to my three teenage daughters and they thought I was cool.
 What gratification for an old dad.

John
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