Marsha, All I was conveying is that it is all relative. nothing more. and that we base our distinctions on this relativity. -Ron
________________________________ From: MarshaV <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:58:59 AM Subject: Re: [MD] LC: Expanded Annotation 57 John, Maybe you missed my response to Dan and Will that there is no-thing there. Maybe Ron missed it too. Marsha At 08:47 AM 5/27/2009, you wrote: >Marsha > > >Time and change have a relationship, yes? > > >John > > >I noticed that. > > >Marsha > > >What does it actually mean to state that everything is always in a state of >change? Everything! > > >John > > >It makes you wonder how the heck does it even hold together? Amazing. > > >Marsha > > >I'm thinking of the water analogy: If everything is water, and there is >nothing that is not water, then there is no meaning to water, for there is >no way of distinguishing a difference between water and nonwater. > > >John > > >Like a fish! Yeah! That makes sense! I get it. Unless you have a >porpoise. They stick their blow holes into a different context regularly. >Like me! > > > >Marsha > > >Seems if you translate that into change, then what humans have actually >defined as change is illusion. > > >John > > >Owww. You just hurt my brain. I'll have to think about it for a mo. > > >The thing is, when water is ubiquitous you can't help but ignore it and when >change is all there is, you can't help but notice. By it's very >definition, change is noticed. Water isn't unless you have a noble >porpoise. > > >Marsha > > >And if our definition of change is an illusion, how can anything be >conceived of as constant, as in Einstein's 'C', when everything is changing? > Against what is it measured? > > >John > > >A syllogism! I love those if-then things. Yeah. Only problem is I tend to >not them, like this, what if our definition of change is NOT an illusion, > What then? > > >Then our definition of change is... something different. I mean, >"something different". > > >Like you get pizza three times a day, seven days a week for a year and then >one day you think, I'm in the mood something different - a change. With >that definition you could get chinese food for a change AND keep Einstein's >C. > > >A two for one coupon special. > > >Marsha > > >Can you untangle this mess between water, change and time? > > >John > > >An asian wise man once said, if it gets messy, eat it over the sink. >Moq_Discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ . _____________ The self is a thought-flow of ever-changing, interrelated and interconnected, inorganic, biological, social and intellectual, static patterns of value responding to Dynamic Quality. . . Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
