> > Willblake2 > Perhaps I am displaying the my simplicity, but if individual > consciousness does not exist, what is the I that is seeing though my eyes? >
[John] Hey, don't knock displaying simplicity or I'll start to feel bad, er, I mean wrong. I like your question. Call me Mark > [John] Call me Andre. Even though I'm not. What the heck, he doesn't think he exists so he won't mind if I borrow his. [Mark] Perhaps we are hypnotized perhaps we are not, which seems more useful a > concept? > [JohnAndre] It seems to me that if we really are hypnotized, then it'd be more useful to realize it. But that's just my gut reaction. I guess the question really comes down to what waking life looks like. If it's really ugly, perhaps we're better off with dreams. [Mark] > The real differences between individuals is enormous in the sense that you > cannot look > through my eyes. [JohnAndre] How do you know? I'm looking through Andre's right now. Do you believe that? How DO YOU KNOW? Since the self is isolated from the other, you can make assumptions but you can't really know. Perhaps you see things exactly like through my eyes, perhaps nothing gets through, or perhaps it is (as it seems) a sort of variable continuum that mysteriously connects us and isolates us, varying greatly from person to person depending upon the kind of life we lead and the choices we make. [Mark] I understand the concept that I am everything. because what I am is the > everything > that I create. However, I am creating it, not something else. [JohnAndre] Well you can't be everything, for one thing you can't be me. You can be Andre when I'm done with him. "What I am is the everything I create" I like that. I like that a lot. It's a tad less cumbersome than: 'The self is a thought-flow of ever-changing, interrelated and interconnected, inorganic, biological, social and intellectual, static patterns of value responding to Dynamic Quality.' Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
