Greetings Mark,
What illusion do you think K has used as a replacement? In my mind,
it is an experiencing self without attachment to the baggage, but how
would you describe the K's new illusion?
Marsha
At 09:09 PM 5/28/2009, you wrote:
Sound to me like K is replacing one illusion with another.
On May 28, 2009, at 3:23:44 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
Based on the Discussion Between J. Krishnamurti and David Bohm in The
Ending of Time:
"The 'I'-consciousness, feels the stress and strain of its burden,
and tries to move out of it, but it is all in vain. It has not
reckoned with the fact that one can move out of that, that is real;
but it is not possible to move away from an illusion. The illusion
is to be dispelled in coming upon a perception of the same. The
thought has to see for itself, that a consciousness which is a sum
total of thoughts based on experience-knowledge and memory drawn from
the past, does not in any way constitute what constitutes ever new
formations of the cosmic reality; that a perception of 'what is' of
this movement cannot be understood through a medium, which is
structured by the constituents of a static model rooted in the past;
and that, almost all constituents of consciousness are dispensable in
the near future, or at a later date. The thought has to see for
itself consciousness is an accumulation of thoughts, and the thought
of the 'me' is not the real me. One meditates, and through one's own
meditation one comes upon an understanding of the roots of
psychological knowledge, and the necessity of moving out of the
accumulation of time as knowledge, and dropping the entire burden of
one's redundant memory from moment to moment."
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