On 1 Jun 2009 at 16:55, Krimel wrote:

> [ron]
> you start this inflammatory bullshit Platt, then cry when you 
> get responses in opposition.
> 
> every god damn time
> 
> give it a break
> 
> [Krimel]
> Exactly. Rather than look at how systems work and the relationships within
> and between systems, it is easier to slap a label on something and call it
> evil. 
> 
> Platt's point is, as usual, too dull to bother with but here is something I
> read recently that you might appreciate. It comes from the book "1491" which
> I think you especially owe it to yourself to read. The author was talking
> about the Aztecs and their practice of human sacrifice. While Europeans took
> the moral high ground against these admittedly barbaric practices; they were
> no less engaged in similarly barbaric public executions. Thousand were
> dispatched to the great by and by in front of crowds of people who jockeyed
> for position and often paid for the really good seats. Corpses were left
> hanging and the dismembered heads of the departed where often placed on
> spikes and left of display. Particularly at the time of European contact the
> departed were often convicted of things like witchcraft or heresy or they
> were Jews. But the Jews don't really count because nearly every culture in
> the world has had a hunting season on them at one time or another.
> Devilishly hard to extinguish, those Jews...
> 
> If you really think about Platt's frequent crying of wolf about millions
> killed, you will see him using a kind of twisted pragmatic theory of truth
> that is measured in body counts. It is as though the true measure of Quality
> is the number left dead. The fact that we are morally superior to him is the
> result of his refusal to count dead coal miners, slaves, Chinese railroad
> workers or cancer victims who died just from living too close to polluting
> temples of capitalism. Me, I think we should call evil, evil and try to end
> it regardless of what name it calls itself.

So capitalism has killed as many as communism and fascism? Is that 
your claim? Let's see some proof. Otherwise, you're just popping off, 
trying to defend the indefensible. 

Platt
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