On 2 Jun 2009 at 9:54, Krimel wrote:

> > [ron]
> > you start this inflammatory bullshit Platt, then cry when you 
> > get responses in opposition.
> > 
> > every god damn time
> > 
> > give it a break
> > 
> > [Krimel]
> > Exactly. Rather than look at how systems work and the relationships within
> > and between systems, it is easier to slap a label on something and call it
> > evil. 
> > 
> > Platt's point is, as usual, too dull to bother with but here is something
> I
> > read recently that you might appreciate. It comes from the book "1491"
> which
> > I think you especially owe it to yourself to read. The author was talking
> > about the Aztecs and their practice of human sacrifice. While Europeans
> took
> > the moral high ground against these admittedly barbaric practices; they
> were
> > no less engaged in similarly barbaric public executions. Thousand were
> > dispatched to the great by and by in front of crowds of people who
> jockeyed
> > for position and often paid for the really good seats. Corpses were left
> > hanging and the dismembered heads of the departed where often placed on
> > spikes and left of display. Particularly at the time of European contact
> the
> > departed were often convicted of things like witchcraft or heresy or they
> > were Jews. But the Jews don't really count because nearly every culture in
> > the world has had a hunting season on them at one time or another.
> > Devilishly hard to extinguish, those Jews...
> > 
> > If you really think about Platt's frequent crying of wolf about millions
> > killed, you will see him using a kind of twisted pragmatic theory of truth
> > that is measured in body counts. It is as though the true measure of
> Quality
> > is the number left dead. The fact that we are morally superior to him is
> the
> > result of his refusal to count dead coal miners, slaves, Chinese railroad
> > workers or cancer victims who died just from living too close to polluting
> > temples of capitalism. Me, I think we should call evil, evil and try to
> end
> > it regardless of what name it calls itself.
> 
> [Platt]
> So capitalism has killed as many as communism and fascism? Is that 
> your claim? Let's see some proof. Otherwise, you're just popping off, 
> trying to defend the indefensible. 
> 
> [Krimel]
> Is this some attempt as self parody? Are you trying to make a joke of
> genocide? Because if you are. it's working. You are a really funny guy.

Just as I thought. You can't back up your claim. Typical of your posts. 


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