> Nick previously:
> I already went over this.  Maybe you missed it.  Pursuit of happiness is from
> ancient greece.  Happiness in ancient greece is not the way logical positivist
> ulitarians define happy (they define it as a biological pleasure).  
> Happiness before
> the advent of ulitarian logical positivists who redefined reality 
> vacuous of value, this happiness
> when value was understood is translated from ancient greece as 
> "flourishing".  Flourishing
> means happiness, well-being, quality.  Not all flourishings are 
> natural rights.  Courage is
> a virtue (a flourishing) but that is not law reviewable.
> What I said above is this and I already said it in a post to Marsha:
> Life (the birth-death cycle) is not the ultimate end or else there would be no
> way to make a distinction between a dog, logical positivist, or 
> Pirsig.  Each of them
> are life (person).  Each of them are on the birth-death cycle (also 
> definition of life).  Reality
> for rational humans is more than mere survival.  The Ultimate telos 
> end is flourishing.  Due
> to flourishing we can define with flourishing, in other words, we 
> can define with quality the
> distinctions between these three birth-death cycles.  We can say 
> that Pirsig is flourishing
> more than a logical positivist.  We argue this in many ways.  ZMM 
> and Lila are arguments
> that Pirsig was onto something of a better quality than logical 
> positivists.  Quality goes further
> than just looking at the person.  A virtuous person is pursuing 
> happiness.  A virtuous person,
> in other  words, is pursuing quality (excellence).
> that's the context in which I wrote that

 
> Ron:
> Then if you would please, what are the earmarks of "excellence"?

Nick:
Well you see it you know it.  Do you see excellence in a logical positivist 
or in Pirsig?

Nick


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