"All you have to do is write one true sentence. Write the truest sentence you know." ~ Ernest H.
"Hmmm. I want mashed potatoes for dinner but I do not want to drive to the store. Hmmm. Interesting." ~ M. K. ________________________________ From: gav <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:29:10 PM Subject: [MD] MOQ and SOM just a reminder: you cannot understand the MOQ if you are thinking in SOM you can understand SOM if you are thinking in MOQ. The MOQ integrates SOM; SOM isn't able to comprehend the MOQ. this point is illustrated day in day out by krimel and many others who keep trying to understand the MOQ from a SOM viewpoint. nothing can be gained in this way. SOM is dualistic; the MOQ is monistic. as with the first chapter of the tao te ching, the one (tao, quality) *precedes* the two (yin/yang, subject/object). what pirsig did and is asking us to do is no easy thing; it is rather 'matrix-ish' - it requires one to 'bracket' the world, to borrow from husserl. maya. as with taoism or buddhism or hinduism, we see the resonances of the MOQ with the perennial philosophy, which can be summarised by tat tvam asi - thou art that....or from closer to home, gnothi se auton - know thyself. these aphorisms reveal the fundamental unity of self and world and 'god', of knower and known; but as with all abstract ideas they do not directly reveal. the direct experience of this unity is much more efficacious - revelatory. this is why indigenous cultures took psychedelics, chanted, drummed, fasted etc etc. this is what pirsig realised when he took peyote. to cast aside the enduring wisdom of the most enduring cultures (including our own) is sheer folly, and a case of pathological hubris. why would these philosophies endure if they didn't work? pragmatic criterion! SOM, in its mature form, is about 400 years old, and it has led us to the brink of extinction. alienation from the natural world and schizophrenia is the psychic result. it has served its purpose (relating to the evolution of the intellect from the social) and now is being superceded, integrated within a more coherent and comprehensive metaphysical model. this process represents the culmination of intellect the intellect frees the individual from social control, from coercion and oppression, but the social level provided a home for the individual - a sense of identity and meaning; the incredible vigour of fundamentalist religious whackos - christian, moslem and jew - are testament to this schism, this lack: the individual has been loosed from an anachronistic and infantile interpretation of religious truth, but where doe he call home now? nihilism is a stepping stone to a direct personal spirituality. which is where we are at now. we are seeking a reconnection, a personal reconnection (see campbell's creative mythology for great stuff on this) to the divine, with intellect as our guide. but for this to occur we have to use intellect artistically; prosaic scientific generalities are not personal - they are social- they seek to explain reality as something independent of our own unique natures - this is regressive. intellect must yield to the rhythm and logic of mythopoetry in order to reach the subtle comprehension necessary to a personal connection to the divine. it cannot be approached head-on, literally: we obscure what we seek when we do that. very male. no offense to the guys here, but for girls this knowledge is easier to grasp. the return of the witch, the wise woman, is upon us. the woman is more receptive than the man, generally speaking. she is less likely to impose her own conceptual schema on the world, rather she is better able to discern the subtle order within chaos - the world is order incarnate. (this is why jackson pollock's drip paintings were so valued - he captured that chaotic order.) ever seen 'i love huckabees'? - when the two main characters bash each other in the face with a blow up ball to shock each other zen style into a state of pure being? "it's like i am a rock, a tree, a blade of grass or some mould. whatever is around" Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
