Marsha, Tasty indeed! this interpretation gives MoQ a method. The problem faced before was how to inspire people to desire wisdom, Socrates used elenctic method to induce it in aporia. I think thats what Pirsig was aiming at with the method of the koan. -Ron
________________________________ From: MarshaV <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:12:12 AM Subject: Re: [MD] Love as Quality But yum-yum, I do love Eros... At 09:09 AM 6/26/2009, you wrote: >Nope, suffering is the inability to recognize love in all, it's a >sort of blindness >to Qualty, I 'd say that it births illusionary conceptions. Thus the >Art or the skill >of the crafting of perception. >I would say you are correct. > > > > > >________________________________ >From: MarshaV <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:02:50 AM >Subject: Re: [MD] Love as Quality > >At 08:56 AM 6/26/2009, you wrote: > >Marsha: > > > >Love is experiencing things just as they are. Need love be more than this? > > > > > >I'm just asking... > > > >Ron: > >No, unless experiencing things as they are produces suffering and turmoil. > > >And here I thought that all this suffering was a conceptual >illusion. Wait!!! It is an illusion. Am I wrong? > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > >From: MarshaV <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:29:00 AM > >Subject: Re: [MD] Love as Quality > > > > > > > > > >Love is experiencing things just as they are. Need love be more than this? > > > > > >I'm just asking... > > > > > > > > > > > >At 08:21 AM 6/26/2009, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hackneyed and cliche as it may seem the term Love may be substituted > > >for Quality. > > > > > >Love is divided into 4 kinds, intellectual love of which the highest > > >pattern is the love > > >of wisdom. > > >Social love, the highest is the love of your fellow human beings > > >Biological love, the highest being the love and care of ones own body. > > >and inorganic love, the highest being the form of life. > > > > > >If we love life, our bodies, our nieghbors and wisdom, morality will > > >be served. May beauty > > >be the harmony of these? is orienting our desire in this way, > > >better-ness? is this craft > > >called the code of Art? > > > > > >In Plato's Socratic dialog the symposium Phaedrus opens the dialog > > >with the claim that Eros > > >is the oldest of the gods, with no parents. Quality? > > > > > > > > >-Ron > > > > > > > > > > > >Moq_Discuss mailing list > > >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > >Archives: > > >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > >_____________ > > > >"He who neglects the present moment throws away all he has." > > (Friedrich von Schiller) > > > > > > > > > > > >Moq_Discuss mailing list > >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >Archives: > >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > > > > > >Moq_Discuss mailing list > >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >Archives: > >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > >_____________ > >"He who neglects the present moment throws away all he has." > (Friedrich von Schiller) > > > > > >Moq_Discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > >Moq_Discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ _____________ "He who neglects the present moment throws away all he has." (Friedrich von Schiller) Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
