-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ham Priday Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MD] Consciousness (explained?)
Dear Marsha -- Greetings Ham, > > Marsha: > If you are saying that "value sensibility" is equivalent to > 'experience' which RMP has said is a synonym for > Quality(Dynamic and static), then I should think I can > agree with you. Ham: Value sensibility is what you ARE. Marsha: If you are saying experience/Quality(Dynamic and static) is what I am, I'm going to confidently agree and leave it at that. There's no need in my mind to go any further at the moment. I'm just happy to find agreement. Regards, Marsha You are not Value itself, you only stand in awe of it. Value, like Sensibility, Truth, Potentiality and Absoluteness is One in Essence. The individual human being is separated from this Oneness -- has to be in order to appreciate it peripherally, from the "outside". The role of the individual self is to be an 'agent' of Value, that is, value-sensibility. Pirsig postulated that pure Quality (Value) is "pre-intellectual experience." This is epistemologically incorrect. We don't "experience" Value, we "sense" it. What we experience are the phenomena (things and happenings) that represent pure Value in existence. This experience is different for each self, which is why my conscious awareness is not your consciousness. Proprietary experience converts sensible Value into the appearance of an objective universe relative to the self. Although this self-constructed valuistic image is our finite cognizance of reality (it can't be anything more), sensibility draws us to Ultimate Reality, the source of all experienced beingness. I hope this makes my ontology clear enough to reach a more confident decision. Thanks, Marsha. Ham Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
