Hi Platt,

Right. For me Quality, beauty is there all the time, all around us, in the trees, the earth, the sky, the emptiness of space. It is there waiting for us to rejoin it. At death it is as if we move from one side of our senses to
the other, from the highly filtered, highly processed world inside the
brain to the true unbounded universe where subjective and objective
coalesce. We step out of the dense fog of introverted human perception
to  the clear air of reality. Where beauty is we will be.

If Quality=reality=experience then we don't need to concerned with any "dense fog of introverted human perception" that stands between us and the world as it really is. The MOQ perspective as I understand it makes it impossible to imagine being out of touch with reality since experience IS reality, so we never need to worry about trying to get back in touch with it after death. On the other hand, Pirsig wrote bits about the possibility of "taking off the cultural glasses" that contradict this view, but I think such passages are a step backward from the Quality postulate to a subject-object, appearance- reality picture where taking off the glasses as a philosophical goal makes sense. Maybe Pirsig would respond with something about 180 versus 360 Zen. I remember reading something like that somewhere. Do you recall where?

Best,
Steve
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