Ham:
Experience itself is subjective.

Andre:
HI John. It think it has been pointed out to Ham that his visit to the MoQ
should just be a visit without contribution as he aims to pervert the MoQ by
blasting his essence ( I do not even consoder it worthy of writing it with a
capital letter).
Experience dissolves the experiencer (the subject) as well as that which is
experiened (the object).
Afterwards you put togethter the subject and the object.

This is profound. You put yourself together as subject ( no mean feat!) and
you try to put together that which you have experienced (no mean feat
either) and what you are left with is a combination of static and dynamic
patterns fused together dominated by static patterns (because you have to
latch). Full stop.
Neither is... (exaspirating ..from a SOM perspective)  liberating from an
MoQ perspective.

I really enjoy your contributions John.

For what it is worth.
Andre
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