Marsha to Bo: It seems to me the Buddhist use intellect and meditation of penetrate the illusionary nature of self (subject) and phenomenon (objects). That is moving beyond a subject/object world-view.
Andre: I like this Marsha, even though I haven't thought it through...which will never happen) but wanted to respond anyway. I tend to think that the Oriental mind-set (if there is such a 'set') never bothered much with the intellectualising (i.e S/O dividing) because it did not meet with their confrontation/experience of their ENVIRONMENT as reality. The Buddha took his environment as reality (sickness,old age, suffering, death) and constructed the illusory 'quality' from this...and, once penetrated (awakened') reaching a state of 'awakening'. It went 'through' this. The Western mind-set did take the S/O mind-set as real(y) and truly reflecting their confrontation/experience of their environment as reality whilst , in this process, constructing conceptual arguments (along dialectical lines) that this mind-set was an illusion (appearance and ideal). In this way it had set up its own paradoxes. It remained 'stuck' in this. Andre Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
