Hey, John --
But I can choose to walk or run or fly, so I have choice in the
face of the force of gravity and I can steal candy from babies
or invade Poland (with some help) so I have choice in the face
of the force of morality, which was the main thrust of my point.
Just because there is a force doesn't mean I have to go with it.
Just because my compass points north, doesn't mean my legs
can't walk south.
You seem to be positing an argument where none exists. I'm in total
agreement with both of the posts you've addressed to me.
Apparently, you misinterpreted or have lost sight of the point I was making
to Joe Maurer, which is that man invents morality rather than the other way
around. The individual IS FREE because he is not bound by a universe that
is intrinsically moral. If morality were universal, human beings would
necessarily behave according to the laws of nature and genetic programming.
The exercise of free choice is made possible by man's value sensibility and
reasoning. That he is uniquely endowed with these faculties suggests that
man's role in existence is that of choice-maker. Among his choices are ways
to establish a moral society.
So, what is your argument?
--Ham
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On Monday, 11/30/09, 10:21 AM, "John Carl" <[email protected]> wrote:
Ham sez:
"If morality were intrinsic to the universe, as you seem to believe,
you would have no choice but to 'go with the flow'."
That's like saying if gravity were intrinsic to the universe I wouldn't
have
any choice but to fall down.
Exactly!
--Ham
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