On 12/31/09 12:15 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

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Please no new levels!!! (the MOQ is no level to forestall comments)
I've never placed logic ITSELF at the social level. The point is that
Pirsig declared it an intellectual (nonS/O pattern) but if applying logic
(in the calculating sense) is "intellect" then the intellectual level began
deep down in the biological realm.
 
Joe, please try to be a little reasonable and stop your silly roamings.
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Hi Bo and all,

My admiration for what you have achieved in your understanding of Pirsig is
boundless. I am reminded of a limerick: There was a young fellow named Dick
who had a corkscrew _____.  He went on a long lost hunt for a girl with a
corkscrew ______.  When he found her he fell over dead!  She had a left-hand
thread.

Maybe I have a left-hand thread, but my roaming started when I was 12 and
has continued through pre-Socratics, up through Pirsig.    I don¹t know what
is my level of understanding?  I don¹t even remember all the questions I
have asked.  There is no doubt in my "mind" of your achievement with SOL.
When I find the description of an evolution which follows the model of the
musical octave I am amazed.  I found it early on like 60 years ago.

Now ³logic² haunts me!  SOM is thoroughly discredited!   The undefined
becomes whatever I say it is?  This is wrong!  Somehow I must incorporate
the undefined in my sense of evolution. Hence Gravity, Instinct,
Consciousness seem to be characteristics in an undefined/defined evolution.

Joe

> Please no new levels!!! (the MOQ is no level to forestall comments)
> I've never placed logic ITSELF at the social level. The point is that
> Pirsig declared it an intellectual (nonS/O pattern) but if applying logic
> (in the calculating sense) is "intellect" then the intellectual level began
> deep down in the biological realm.
> 
> Joe, please try to be a little reasonable and stop your silly roamings.


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