On 12/30/09 11:14 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

<snip>
"Symbolizes" ...?  2+2=4 written this way may look "intellectual" but
dots or dashes, or pebbles is symbols all right and apes can do the
latter (I'm told) and if so the intellectual level is moved down into the
biological realm. Logic ITSELF in the sense of number relationships,
geometrical & mathematical ditto is only intellectual the moment it is
used the Pythagorean way namely to prove how a relationship it is
objectively and unswervingly  so.
<snip>

Hi Bo and all,

For logic to find its roots, I feel you have to abandon the Social level of
evolution and replace it with  an Emotional level of evolution which becomes
the first level in conscious evolution.  A social level is fairly
meaningless without the logic of the intellectual level, and it is difficult
to find the dynamic of the social level to be different from the dynamic of
an anthill.  

³They don¹t think, they feel!² is not an indictment of emotional behavior.
Rather it is an important pointer to a logic in conscious behavior based in
evolution to emotions rather than behavior based on a random occurrence.
The intellectual logic of 1+1=2 follows the emotional conscious perception
of an individuated difference male/female formulated in a number
relationship rather than mere individuation.  It is not good for man to be
alone.

Joe

> "Symbolizes" ...?  2+2=4 written this way may look "intellectual" but
> dots or dashes, or pebbles is symbols all right and apes can do the
> latter (I'm told) and if so the intellectual level is moved down into the
> biological realm. Logic ITSELF in the sense of number relationships,
> geometrical & mathematical ditto is only intellectual the moment it is
> used the Pythagorean way namely to prove how a relationship it is
> objectively and unswervingly  so.               


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