[Bruce] As I see it, Chaos is not a level nor is Quality. Levels represent a place in time on the evolutionary scale and current status of Static patterns of quality. Each level represents a ratchet point that attempts to protect itself and it's achievements. Quality's goal is to organize the best system possible, the ultimate static pattern. The ultimate destruction of all static patterns is total chaos... no static patterns. Check out slide 9, "Lila Train of Knowledge".
[Krimel] As I have noted elsewhere I think you should really look more closely was what Chaos is and what it can do. You should also consider more carefully your first slide. I believe the MoQ is Taoism packaged for westerners. Quality IS the Tao. It is indefinable except in each passing moment. It is the union of opposites and among the most significant and primary opposites are the active and passive forces of Yin and Yang. Get it? "Active" as in changing and dynamic and passive as in fixed or static. Quality has no goal. It simply is. The tension between order and chaos (read static and dynamic) is at the heart of the creation stories of nearly every major civilization on the planet. They all speak of how order triumphs over chaos. But then they all go on about how we should act to preserve the ongoing order and keep chaos at bay. The problem is that chaos is with us always. It never goes way. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
