[Krimel]
Seriously, can you believe this shit?
[Arlo]
Well, with Platt its just another opportunity to mischaracterize
theories that aren't to his theistic bent, and that's just a
carry-over of the tired old talk-radio rhetorical tactics he deploys.
This one is a good example of the Mighty Wurlitzer, and I personally
don't think it even phases him that it demonstrates complete
ignorance on his part. His "motis operandi" is to demonize the
academy, demonize "intellect", and along the way twist the MOQ into a
theistic philosophy (at worst or an apologist's support of theism (at best).
What bother's Platt about "emergence", as is evident in his
sophomoricly glib "oops", is the lack of "intent" or "planning", the
lack of a supra-agent who's deliberations are what gives his life
both meaning and superiority. Quality becomes a sort of hyper-mind,
or supra-mind, who willfully orchestrates the cosmos towards a
certain end, an end where "man" plays the penultimate role. E.g.,
billions of years ago when subatomic particles first formed "carbon",
the hand that controlled them to do so was connected to a mind, a
plan, who's goal was to create "man". Like Calvin said to Hobbes,
"all of history has occurred with the goal of producing 'me'" (or
something like that).
What saddens me is that we were just through this twice in last few
months, and yet there is "oops" being squawked again, as willfully
ignornant and deliberately disinformative as always.
What I continue to not fathom is how the same people who hold up
Dynamic Quality as if it were some Incan God totally destroy the very
"freedom" Pirsig imbues the cosmos with via this concept by turning
it into an orchestrating hand. At the very least, they turn the
cosmos into a mechanistic, ordered stage upon which only "man" has
freedom to act. But even this move is short-sighted, as it makes
their own existences wholly dependent on the very "chance" they are
trying to drive out of the cosmos. Chance = freedom. Freedom depends
on chance. A scripted universe, an ordered universe, is one where
there is no freedom. If it was always "part of the plan" to produce
man, than the myriad of subatomic and biological interactions that
led over millennia to "man" were "destined", unavoidable, and hence
these patterns could never have "responded to DQ". Like a rock that I
pick up and move from one desk to another, the rock simply is a
puppet of my will. And so the cosmos becomes supermarionation for the
Will of Quality.
With John, I don't know, he admits to being ignorant about theories
of emergence, but this does not seemingly stop him from (at the very
least) supporting Platt's sophomoric mischaracterization. I've tried
to explain before that "creation" occurs as a "response to Quality",
it is not puppeteered nor orchestrated by some supra-agent. Creation
occurs as the result of interwoven, interrelated patterns each
responding to Quality within their own agenic bounds. Atoms had no
"intent" to create amoebas, nor were atoms "coerced" into doing what
they did by a Qualigod who was willfully staging the cosmos for
"man". We look back after-the-fact and see what appears to be
certainty, but this is because what we do NOT see are the inexistence
potential other outcomes. This illusion may make us feel all warm and
fuzzy, but that's about it.
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