Marsha, I remember a comment by John Gatto in Dumbing Us Down where he lays the blame at the feet of two different entities - school and tv. It has to be one or both of those, he says, because that's really all kids get. Those are the two sources of values-transmission. there ain't nothin' else.
John On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:57 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi John, > > It's just the the media. I've heard professors of astrophysics and > particle physics > talk with a certainty that made me angry: "This isn't just mathematics, > it's real." > Or I mentioned at the Hayden Planetarium Whoopi Goldberg stating "It's true > because the scientists have discovered it to be true." Many of these > scientists > seem as narrow-minded as any medieval church Inquisitor. > > > Marsha > > > > On Jan 12, 2010, at 1:59 PM, John Carl wrote: > > >> [Arlo] > >> As with all theories, those who hold them understand they are metaphors, > >> analogies, descriptions that best serve to illuminate the unseeable > Void. > > > > > > Ok Arlo, I'm gonna lay out for you my particular rant now. Pay close > > attention and please don't jump to conclusions based on past arguments > with > > others. I'm certainly not a knee-jerk talk show follower, ok? > > > > The fact that those who hold the theories understand them to be just > that, > > is true. But the way it works in the modern age, intellectualism takes a > > diabolical twist. Because the theoretical knowledge, gleaned by > analytical > > minds, is encapsulated and transmitted via powerful media imagery into > the > > homes of millions, and these millions don't really think through the > > philosophical underpinnings of theory and analogistic ways of thinking. > > They pretty much take what they see as truth. They conflate the image > with > > the word, they confuse the reality they see (an artificial construct) as > the > > same thing as "the truth of the experts". They believe they understand > the > > origins of life, the universe and everything. > > > > > > Ellul helped me to see all this, and he points to the culprit as the > CHURCH > > that started it all. The medieval church with its icons and painted > > representation, heck, even the crucifix, all this imagery was constructed > to > > impress upon the minds of the masses the hidden priestly truths of the > > bible, a seeingly noble and efficient means but unfortunately, expressly > > forbidden by the same tome they touted. > > > > Read the second commandment sometime in a non-catholic bible. > > > > They did far more damage to society than Aristotle, for nowadays this > > technique is unleashed upon a supposedly democratic nation, with the > result > > being the deluded and ignorant masses see something on tv, they don't > take > > it analogistically, they take it as reality itself. And this has worse > > effects than cosmological ignorance. It's got great political > significance. > > > > > > I'd feel sorry for most of them, but Krimel really oughta know better. > > > > Honestly, when he mentioned watching Nova, I literally fell on the floor > > laughing. > > > > John, eschewer of the glowing idol of the AwDga cult > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars... > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
