[Ham] Why should I have to contend with Dawkins, a biologist who (like many here) is obsessed with the notion that Creationism somehow has a stranglehold on scientific investigation?
[Krimel] Is this a joke? Creationism (I notice you use the honest term, at least, rather than disingenuous ID) has a stranglehold on biology? I think what pisses Dawkins off is the persistence of this stupid idea. Creationism is rooted in dogma not logic or science or anything else. If ever there was an example of people being held in the thrall of an idea for social rather than intellectual reasons this is it. It is just flatly dishonest for people of that ilk to pretend to justify their dogma with the very tools they are trying to overthrow. Like say obvious misconstrueals of the Law of Thermodynamics. I suspect that is what annoys Dawkins and impels him to speak out against such absurdity. Of what metaphysical significance is the fact that Dawkins took four pages of his postmodern Pilgrim's Progress to argue that "there is no essence"? Better that he had used that space to explain why there is no nothingness. Or, how it is that we are free to believe in a primary source or not. I am neither a creationist nor a platonist. Plato believed that "essence" was the ideal form or cause of a thing, apart from its being. His protégé Aristotle suggested that the ideal is to be found in the thing's being itself, which led to the plurality of "essences". The Essence of my philosophy is the uncreated Absolute Source from which relational existence is experientially derived. So Essentialism has very little in common with these ontologies. At least Robert Pirsig demonstrated that experienced Value is the metaphysical ground of existence. On that we both agree. Best regards, Ham .org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
