Andre, not familiar with Nothrop, but I sure like the quote you provide. The term "idolatry" applies to perfection.
People think it means carving, but it actually means reification. Yay Andre, Man, you are on a roll... John > 'The Protestant preacher, in repeating the old Christian doctrines of > the immortality of the soul, the divinity of Christ, the Fatherhood of > God, and the Trinity, has been even more guilty of the use of > hocus-pocus and of idolatry. For hocus-pocus and idolatry consist in > using the word and the symbol and repeating and worshipping it instead > of referring to and worshipping that which it symbolizes. When modern > Protestant preachers utter these traditional Christian doctrines, > which they have really inherited from the Roman Catholic, medieval > world, and suppose that their statements will take on meaning if they > are merely repeated often enough, without going on to develop a > theology and an empirically grounded scientific philosophy which gives > them content and meaning in terms of present-day knowledge, it is they > who are the real idolators. For they are giving us the symbols without > specifying anything for them to symbolize. This is idolatry, pure and > unadulterated; it is also hocus-pocus.' ( Northrop, Meeting of East > and West, p286) > > The 'M' of the MoQ is filled with content and meaning by Pirsig > himself, which, as he has stated is no papal bull. It is an > 'empirically grounded scientific philosophy' reflecting Quality > (Reality). No need to 'believe' in Quality! What a farce. It can be > apprehended immediately and verified scientifically any time. The MoQ > symbolises DQ/SQ directly. > > ah, now I get what you meean by "believe in" > Some even dare to suggest that the Quality Pirsig refers to is HIS > Quality, HIS idea. Christ almighty, how silly can you get! > > And poor Bodvar has had to endure this SOM grounded confusion with > most MD subscribers for so long. > > Once you accept the DQ/SQ symbolism all sorts of problems and > obstacles disappear... and even Pirsig's seeming contradictory > statements can be understood. Not that I have done so with all of > them. Just some. (e.g. the one in the Baggini interview). It is as > clear as day. > > Cheers > Andre > > > ' > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
