Mark, Quality(unpatterned experience & patterned experience) --- Reality.
Marsha On Jan 16, 2010, at 12:39 PM, markhsmit wrote: > Hi Marsha, > Perhaps the first step is to ask individuals to consider > if there is a question to be asked regards to quality. > That is how Pirsig got there. He used the notion of > quality to achieve his personal world view. Through > this he then grew that into a systematic representation > of quality. > > 1. Underlying everything is their quality. > > Mark > > On Jan 16, 2010, at 12:53:43 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > From: MarshaV <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MD] [Bulk] Awareness of Quality > Date: January 16, 2010 12:53:43 AM PST > To: [email protected] > > Hi Mark, > > Don't you think the first step would be to get individuals to consider > there is a question to be asked in regards to reality? > > > Marsha > > > > > > On Jan 16, 2010, at 3:28 AM, markhsmit wrote: > >> Hi, >> It appears to me that many in this post have an awareness >> of Quality. The MoQ serves to transfer our personal awareness >> through words and logic and references to another. Once such >> an awareness is captured, then it becomes subjective. It does >> not then rely on the objective transfer, but becomes internalized >> as a new view. At that point it becomes separate from the discussion >> which preceded it. Many of us are trying to impart (or infect) that personal >> awareness, each in our own way. The result is, hopefully, a consensus >> on the best way to impart it to others. It is not so much whether one >> view is right or wrong, but whether one method is more effective >> than another. >> >> I can sense the frustration by some when others do not get their >> awareness, when the relator uses the method by which they >> achieved it ("how can you not get it?!"). It is difficult when one >> tries to impart a non-intellectual realization with words. Some >> philosophies tend to be easier to assimilate. This may be a >> measure of the reality of the metaphysics itself. In some cases >> only a small number of like minded individuals share a common >> awareness. In other cases a large number get it. If truth is in >> numbers, perhaps it is the vector being used not the subject >> itself that matters. >> >> If MoQ is to become a pandemic, maybe simpler and less wordy >> concepts should be used. I see a big difference >> between ZAMM and Lila in terms of such infection. Why is >> that? Does Lila get too far away from the truth? If an understanding >> of reality using the concept of Quality is indeed the most >> efficient method for creating reality awareness, perhaps it >> should be simplified. The twelve steps of achieving an >> awareness of the world through MoQ. >> >> Do we expect Quality to be the right method of imparting >> the awareness of reality? >> >> Mark >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars... > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ _______________________________________________________________________ Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars... Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
