Mark & Marsha --
[Steve]:
Perhaps the first step is to ask individuals to consider
if there is a question to be asked regards to quality.
That is how Pirsig got there. He used the notion of
quality to achieve his personal world view. Through
this he then grew that into a systematic representation
of quality.
1. Underlying everything is their quality.
[Marsha]:
Don't you think the first step would be to get individuals
to consider there is a question to be asked in regards to reality?
For what it is worth from one of two alleged screed-writers on this forum, I
applaud both of these suggestions. With all due respect to RMP, we might
also consider whether "quality" is really the best term for our awareness of
this reality.
--Ham
On Jan 16, 2010, at 3:28 AM, markhsmit wrote:
Hi,
It appears to me that many in this post have an awareness
of Quality. The MoQ serves to transfer our personal awareness
through words and logic and references to another. Once such
an awareness is captured, then it becomes subjective. It does
not then rely on the objective transfer, but becomes internalized
as a new view. At that point it becomes separate from the discussion
which preceded it. Many of us are trying to impart (or infect) that
personal
awareness, each in our own way. The result is, hopefully, a consensus
on the best way to impart it to others. It is not so much whether one
view is right or wrong, but whether one method is more effective
than another.
I can sense the frustration by some when others do not get their
awareness, when the relator uses the method by which they
achieved it ("how can you not get it?!"). It is difficult when one
tries to impart a non-intellectual realization with words. Some
philosophies tend to be easier to assimilate. This may be a
measure of the reality of the metaphysics itself. In some cases
only a small number of like minded individuals share a common
awareness. In other cases a large number get it. If truth is in
numbers, perhaps it is the vector being used not the subject
itself that matters.
If MoQ is to become a pandemic, maybe simpler and less wordy
concepts should be used. I see a big difference
between ZAMM and Lila in terms of such infection. Why is
that? Does Lila get too far away from the truth? If an understanding
of reality using the concept of Quality is indeed the most
efficient method for creating reality awareness, perhaps it
should be simplified. The twelve steps of achieving an
awareness of the world through MoQ.
Do we expect Quality to be the right method of imparting
the awareness of reality?
Mark
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