Steve to Andre: Stick around, or just check the archives. Bo indeed thinks that Pirsig does not understand the MOQ which is absurd if the MOQ is the philosophy of Robert M Pirsig.
Andre: Hi Steve, I agree in the sense that Bodvar has stated that Mr. Pirsig has 'watered down' the MoQ, has 'chickened out' to use a common phrase, to make it more 'acceptable' or palatable to (Western) academia, for example by incorporating James' philosophy. And I do intend to stay around, though of late, I must admit, I do have a bit of a time convincing myself of the quality of this. Bodvar sees revolution in the MoQ. This is an attitude and conviction. To be honest ( as I always try to be) I do not share this fanaticism. I think my history is simply different to Bodvar's. I am not going to defend these parts of him. His static patterns are after something...DQ ( paraphrasing Pirsig in LILA about Lila). I do believe though that the MoQ has within itself the seeds of a dramatic and radical change. Not only for the individual, but also on a broader cultural level...it is so rich with innovation and creative power. I am not the type to shout from the rooftops. I rather like Pirsig's heart, head and hands approach as outlined in ZMM. Especially considering the context within which I find myself now, living and working in China. One achieves only counter measures when one shouts from the rooftops here...or anywhere else really. Steve: Pirsig has responded to Bo's SOL thesis several times and told him that SOL is not what he means by the intellectual level. Bo is frustrated that Pirsig does not recognize "the true MOQ" when he is presented with it by Bo. Andre: I am aware of this Steve, aware of the annotations specifically related to Bodvar's ( and Platt's) interpretations regarding the intellectual level and LILA as a document. To be a bit more accurate though, Pirsig did say that if it (the SOL) has any value, it will percolate to the top. If this is not an inverse of Reaganism I don't know what is. As I concluded before, these are points to ponder...in the end one has to follow one's source ...and this simply depends upon the extent to which one is receptive to this... follow one's dharma. As the Zen Buddhist saying goes: When you see the Buddha down the street, kill him. Kind regards Andre Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
