On 1/18/10 at 7:47 AM, Platt Holden asked:
Hi All: How do we deal with this MOQ conundrum? Experience arises from a reality created by experience. One answer. "Ignore it. Perhaps it will go away."
MoQ has more than one problem with its equivalency theory: Quality=Experience=Reality. It's a simplistic paradigm that not only defies common sense but contradicts what we've learned about the acquisition of knowledge (epistemology).
If Pirsig's assertion that "Experience is the cutting edge of Reality" was meant to infer that Experience literally creates Reality, then the created Reality (existence) and the Quality that follows from it are two non-identical things. This of course refutes your Quality Principle: "It created and gave purpose to our world, motivated by the ethical principle of the Good, which is its essence."
(I won't address the qualifying phrase "motivated by the ...Good which is its essence," because I don't believe Quality is motivated by either goodness or morality but is a subjective measure on a scale of relative values from good to bad.)
However, it is still possible to salvage the identity of Experience and Realty -- IF the Reality we're talking about it is empirical Existence. This, in fact, is what my epistemology does. It posits experience as an active subjective process, rather than a passive receptor of objective sensibilia. That process is the objectification of sensible Value into discrete entities that represent our being-in-the-world -- in other words, our individual "value constructs". With this ontology we can equate Experience to existential Reality, as well as (for what it's worth) preserving Pirsig's other equivalency: Quality=Value.
Does this solve your conundrum, Platt? Essentially speaking, Ham Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
