Hi Platt. 20 Jan. you asked:
How do we deal with this MOQ conundrum? Experience arises from a reality created by experience. One answer. "Ignore it. Perhaps it will go away." I think this conundrum is created by Pirsig's Quality/MOQ meta- metaphysics. In ZAMM he saw Quality (DQ) as the origin of subjects and objects (SOM the only static level at that stage). Then LILA, but here he started with his Quality=Reality obsession as if managing to prove it that would complete his mission. This made the DQ of MOQ something else than QUALITY - an irrelevant static by-product - hence the Quality//MOQ atrocity. If he had dropped the impossible task of proving an axiom*) and just continued ZAMM's good work in LILA by enlarging the proto- moq the known way with inorganic value the first fall-out and intellect the last (=the S/O as in ZAMM) all this mumbo-jumbo would have been avoided. *) There is no proof for Quality, but there are countless indications for the dynamic/static split being better than the subject/object one. Steve: > > In the MOQ, rather than experience arising from reality or vice > > versa, experience is equated with reality. Why not just:say that static experience arises from dynamic experience? That's the MOQ message. Bodvar Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
