Ron to Khoo: It is inaccurate to think of MoQ as?revolutionary,or evolutionary rather more of an ancient understanding. James said of Pragmatism "some?new words for some old ways of thinking."
Andre: Hi Ron, full agreement. Pirsig makes it very clear in LILA that he uses 'old' insights and with his refreshed look upon things, and with a slight change of interpretation up-ends the entire way of extracting meaning from this. It's an old adage but the world simply does not change. It is changing in the way we look at it, experience it that we change and that the world changes with it. This may not fit Bodvar's revolutionary 'idea' about it but... the old ways of thinking have nothing to do with intellect and are therefore socially steeped with a stupid superstition and cannot have resembled any idea of the higher intellectual truths that are the real thing and bring us closer to the Quality perspective. As Pirsig said Quality lies at the pre- intellectual edge of... . And there is one other thing I re-read last night. When Pirsig talks about the inescapability of metaphysics he said that:'As long as you're in a logical, coherent universe of thought you can't escape metaphysics. A universe of thought... . Yes. And of course Pirsig created a metaphysics belonging to, representing and arising out of all the levels not just the intellectual. The MoQ is not out of SOM. Imho Andre Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
