My wife pointed out my link wasn't very helpful. This is more like it: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/people4dqu/
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:48 AM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote: > Khaled, > > Your point about the comparison of treatment with American Indians was well > taken and well timed, as I was just writing on the subject at another > mailing list I'm on, a pretty quiet one, so far, but three messages this > morning ([email protected] is the list - open to all and if anyone > wonders about D-Q University, that's where I focus my words on THAT > subject) so I appreciate your comparison, and your historical points. > > If I could go back in time and give advice to the Native American World and > the Muslim World, it'd be on this one point you make: > > The Muslim and Arab world was looking to the west for help, support, >> direction and as a model example to what to strive for. >> >> > How has that worked out? And I say the same to American Indians, who also > adopted the accoutrement of the SOMish paradigm, because it promises (and > delivers) great power and material prosperity - How has that worked out? > The snake promised godlike powers, but took away innocence and purity. > > > > > >> that revolution was not meant to turn the country into a theocracy. >> >> > heh-heh, many a slip twixt the cup and the lip, as I tell all my > power-mongering hegemonic empire builders. > > > >> That is not to say that some of you said is not true or does not have >> it's merits. Then again, how many treaties did we sign with the Indians >> only to keep breaking them. To this day, some of those treaties have not >> been settled. >> >> > > Well to be honest, my main point is the one about the long-term breeding of > an Idiocracy. > > "m"oqism is more about analyzing society in terms of real value - and I > find it fascinating that the western intellectual stopped procreating about > 30 years ago, American and European - heck, and Japanese for that matter. > Even China has an ongoing and looming problem with their strict > population-control agenda, so it's not just the west, its industrialized > civilization where we define over-population by "I can't find a parking > space at WalMart". Whereas in reality, population problems are not cause > the quantity of people. Population problems are caused by the quality of > people. And we've produced an entire generation of non-productive, in terms > of actual real productivity - making or growing real goods - people without > any idea that their life should produce useful worth to the mother earth > which birthed them. People with a purely victim mentality at the root of > their being. People who have abandoned morality in the service of hedonism, > and then cry foul because they see themselves being swamped by a competing > society. > > You're right Khaled. It is funny. Funnier even than I realized. > > John > > > > >> Khaled >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Nutrition >> Improve your career health. Click now to study nutrition! >> >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=HZb4iWwjzaIoCmZ4qAVdywAAJ1BoN5MIA846iJgpKACKCvEMAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASQwAAAAA= >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> > > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
