Sure Marsha, go right ahead. Why not? John
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:41 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > John, > > Should I ask you to consider the relativity of what is 'to your mind?' > To my mind a Mozart Symphony, for example No. 40 - K550, may inspire > painting on the ceiling. > > > Marsha > > > > > On Jan 29, 2010, at 1:16 AM, John Carl wrote: > > > Absolutely agree on form and structure of jazz, Marsha. And there is a > > dynamic aspect to computer programming and advanced math, I'm sure, just > > like classical music. > > > > But to my mind, jazz was so dynamic for the same reason our mural > projects > > are more dynamic than a lone artist's work - the collaborative effort > > produces a variety and diversity of expression that feeds the others into > > new insights. When an orchestra sits down with Beethoven's music in > front > > of them, their craftsmanship is required. Their creativity is not. > > > > > > > > John > > > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:52 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> When Beethoven was composing, he was producing music the likes of > >> which audience had never heard before. He was "Far out there Man!!!' > >> And I can assure you that a jazz pianist doesn't go to a keyboard and > >> just pound on any notes. There is form and structure under Jazz too. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Jan 28, 2010, at 1:19 PM, John Carl wrote: > >> > >>> Sure Marsha, even before you posted them in the recent past. > >>> > >>> Quality in it's more static aspect does not obviate Quality in it's > more > >>> dynamic. > >>> > >>> Can't put new wine in the old wine skins, > >>> > >>> Later, > >>> > >>> John > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 9:37 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Plu-eeze! > >>>> > >>>> Obviously spoken by someone knowing little of classical music... > >>>> > >>>> Have you ever listened to Bach's Goldberg Variations? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Jan 28, 2010, at 11:35 AM, John Carl wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Well said Andre, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Pirsig does not want his metaphysics to be another prison. Hence the > >>>>>> DQ/SQ divisions... and (if you like) the notion of the continuation > of > >>>>>> evolutionary progress (which is 'open-ended'). That is: it remains > >>>>>> provisional. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Pirsig in ZAMM quotes jazz musicians - jazz, a uniquely new American > >> Art > >>>> - > >>>>> influencing the culture at large, Kerouac adopted Jazz style to > >>>> literature > >>>>> and inspired a new generation of writers to break free from the > prison > >> of > >>>>> formal rigidity. > >>>>> > >>>>> Classical symphonys, with every note defined and in its place, have > >> their > >>>>> beauty, Bach in his realm, Kant in his. Breathtaking! but the MoQ is > >>>> more > >>>>> like Jazz, > >>>>> > >>>>> Jazz is not chaotic at its roots. It might seem so to those > >> overly-fond > >>>> of > >>>>> having every note defined, but the musical structure dictates a > >>>> harmonious > >>>>> unity that is not intellectually defined, but sensed, and felt, and > >>>> played > >>>>> with freedom. The MoQ invites harmonious riffs, not apparent to the > >>>>> original composer and discovered in the playing. > >>>>> > >>>>> "Man if you could just drop all them high-falutin' pretensions and > DIG > >>>> it" > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> John > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list > >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >>>> Archives: > >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >>>> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > >>>> > >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list > >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >>> Archives: > >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >>> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > >> > >> > >> Moq_Discuss mailing list > >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >> Archives: > >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > >> > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
